Thursday, September 12, 2013

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EDITOR -- review PJM commentary-- on truth--

also recomend that you review psalms

Psalm 1 (New King James Version) - Bible Gateway



1 Blessed is the man. Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,

 Nor stands in the path of sinners,

Nor sits in the seat of the scornful; 2 But his delight is in the ...


roman catholic religious deception-- and ceremony-- with PJM


1. Truth

Nothing else would matter about ????? if it weren’t true.

But it is our firm belief as ????????? that it is true.

 And, indeed, I believe that the histori­­cal case for the ????????is virtually irre­futable, as irrefutable as it was to JESUS. And there is something else.


We know that the HOLY SPIRIT affirms that its members and servants are all subject to original sin.


 But while men might falter, the teaching of the HOLY SPIRIT does not.




New International Version

Proverbs 23:23


1..Buy the truth and do not sell it-- wisdom, instruction and insight as well.

New Living Translation


2.Get the truth and never sell it; also get wisdom, discipline, and good judgment.

English Standard Version


3.Buy truth, and do not sell it; buy wisdom, instruction, and understanding.

New American Standard Bible


4.Buy truth, and do not sell it, Get wisdom and instruction and understanding.

King James Bible


5.  Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.




1 Samuel 10
New International Version (NIV)

10 Then Samuel took a flask of olive oil and poured it on Saul’s head and kissed him, saying,

“Has not the Lord anointed you ruler over his inheritance?[a]

2 When you leave me today, you will meet two men near Rachel’s tomb, at Zelzah on the border of Benjamin. They will say to you, ‘The donkeys you set out to look for have been found. And now your father has stopped thinking about them and is worried about you. He is asking, “What shall I do about my son?”’

3 “Then you will go on from there until you reach the great tree of Tabor. Three men going up to worship God at Bethel will meet you there. One will be carrying three young goats, another three loaves of bread, and another a skin of wine. 4 They will greet you and offer you two loaves of bread, which you will accept from them.

5 “After that you will go to Gibeah of God, where there is a Philistine outpost. As you approach the town, you will meet a procession of prophets coming down from the high place with lyres, timbrels, pipes and harps being played before them, and they will be prophesying. 6 The Spirit of the Lord will come powerfully upon you, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person. 7 Once these signs are fulfilled, do whatever your hand finds to do, for God is with you.

8 “Go down ahead of me to Gilgal. I will surely come down to you to sacrifice burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, but you must wait seven days until I come to you and tell you what you are to do.”

Saul Made King

9 As Saul turned to leave Samuel, God changed Saul’s heart, and all these signs were fulfilled that day.

 10 When he and his servant arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him;


the Spirit of God came powerfully upon him, and he joined in their prophesying.


11 When all those who had formerly known him saw him prophesying with the prophets, they asked each other, “What is this that has happened to the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?”

12 A man who lived there answered, “And who is their father?”


 So it became a saying: “Is Saul also among the prophets?”

13 After Saul stopped prophesying, he went to the high place.

14 Now Saul’s uncle asked him and his servant, “Where have you been?”



“Looking for the donkeys,” he said. “But when we saw they were not to be found, we went to Samuel.”

15 Saul’s uncle said, “Tell me what Samuel said to you.”

16 Saul replied, “He assured us that the donkeys had been found.” But he did not tell his uncle what Samuel had said about the kingship.


Numbers 11; Numbers 29



23 The Lord answered Moses, “Is the Lord’s arm too short? Now you will see whether or not what I say will come true for you.”

24 So Moses went out and told the people what the Lord had said. He brought together seventy of their elders and had them stand around the tent.



25 Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke with him, and he took some of the power of the Spirit that was on him and put it on the seventy elders.



When the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied—but did not do so again.

26 However, two men, whose names were Eldad and Medad, had remained in the camp.


They were listed among the elders, but did not go out to the tent. Yet the Spirit also rested on them, and they prophesied in the camp.



 27 A young man ran and told Moses, “Eldad and Medad are prophesying in the camp.”

28 Joshua son of Nun, who had been Moses’ aide since youth, spoke up and said, “Moses, my lord, stop them!”

29 But Moses replied,


 “Are you jealous for my sake?


 I wish that all the Lord’s people were prophets and that the Lord would put his Spirit on them!”

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And let us NOT forget the Forgiveness of SINS which CAN ONLY happen in the manner Jesus Himself gives to all of humanity as an OFFER through the Sacrament of Confession



ANYONE who dies with Unconfessed; Unforgiven Mortal sins; DOOMS themselves to Hell for all eternity. 




1John.5 Verses 16 to 17 "If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. 


 There is sin which is mortal; 


do not say that one is to pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin,  but there is sin which is not mortal …



 John.20 Verses 20 to 23When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you.

 As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them


"Receive the Holy Spirit.


 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained



 These are the Words Of Jesus Christ, in Whom all Salvation rest



. Do you listen to God or your preacher?

Each and EVERY ONE of the COMMANDS MUST BE Fulfilled and maintained in our lives 



IF we are to attain our own salvation.



Jesus Himself commands that Baptism is a REQUIREMENT for our salvation. 


This “good” Thief  earned and was granted by Jesus


 Baptism of Desire: 


One of the three possible forms God accepts.

 
John 15: 26-27 SETS UP WHO CJRIST IS SPEAKING TOO IN JOHN 16:26-27 


 “But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness to me; and you also are witnesses, because you have been with me from the beginning. … 

John 16: 12-15 "I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.


 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth;


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 [Christ hear is speaking to the Apostles and through THEM to today’s CC]

for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, 

and he will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me


for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you. “  


THIS IS FULFILLED IN JOHN 20:21-22



John 5: 37 “;  and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe him whom he has sent.


 You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; 


 and it is they that bear witness to me;  yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life


 [Speaking of accepting the entire WORD of GOD].



 I do not receive glory from men.

[Meaning disobedience is rampant!]


 But I know that you have not the love of God within you.  I have come in my Father's name, and you do not receive me”


 Obey Me! Accept MY teaching as those I CHOOSE relate them to you.]

Then there is the necessity to KNOW [AND FULLY ACCEPT] the Gospels and WHAT THEY Actually teach which requires the CC.

Plus there is the issue of Good Works and Charity  [James Chapter 2]

We also see when all is said and done on Judgment day  

(Matt 25), those who will be saved are 


ONLY those who can answer yes to the series of questions



  Did you feed me when I was hungry, clothe me when I was naked, visit me in prison, or when I was sick, invite me in when I was a stranger...etc,



 These questions were not a matter of simple belief, but of works.